Yes please, @Uli_LH can you do it?
Hi there,
did not understand the exact difference between “automatic” and “fixed auto zoom” - and did not find an explanation in documentation or FAQ or forum (sorry, if I missed something).
I noticed, that, if I chose “fixed”, I can choose the “Auto zoom level”, and if I chose “automatic”, this is not the case.
But what does this mean for “automatic auto zoom” - which zoom factor does Kurviger use in this case?
Or did I misunderstand this option completely?
Uli
In this mode, Kurviger chooses the zoom-level automatically 
. The idea is to show a low zoom, when cruising (more overview), but showing details when turning.
The official announcement was made here.
Do you think we should document it ?
AFAIK
- never :
If you zoom manually, it will stay at that zoom-level - fixed :
If you zoom manually, after some time it will change back to the fixed zoom-level.
(Independent of distance to next turning point) - automatic:
Automatically changes the zoom-level dependent on the distance to the next turning point
(zoom in when approaching turning point, zoom out otherwise)
Yes, this is missing for automatic mode. 
Manfred
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Thanks @Uli_LH for the question and @boldtrn + @linux-user for the answers!
They explain the functionality pretty well. 
“Automatic” option in auto zoom does not have currently extra settings.
We thought to offer predefined ranges for less settings:
- Automatic (close-range)
- Automatic (mid-range)
- Automatic (long-range)
- Fixed
- Off
Of you find more suitable to retain current 3 options and offer instead zoom slider, like with “Fixed” zoom?
Though “Automatic” zoom has 2 values (min, max) so settings could become overcrowded. 
THIS I have seen indeed, but it’s quite short:
"Navigation has another popular feature: a new dynamic map auto zoom while driving.
Enabled with “Automatic” option in Auto zoom settings and works currently in real time with next turn instruction."
That choosing “automatic zoom level” means “automatically chosen bei Kurviger” - hmm, seems to be self-evident. 
Then the question is - depending from what? DISTANCE to next turn instruction? Category of road? Speed?
And still unclear (for me!): “Fixed auto zoom” - that sounds like a paradoxon: Either zoom is fixed, or it is “auto” (i.e. it is NOT fixed) - and in combination with the option to choose a zoom factor … - perhaps I am not the only one who does not understand instantly? 
IF this would be the explanation:
THEN GOTO above “Then the question is - depending from what? DISTANCE to next turn instruction? Category of road? Speed?” 
“Auto zoom” means more that the engine reverts the map zoom after some seconds in case of external changes (e.g. from user).
The options define if the active zoom is “Automatic” (aka dynamic / auto-calculated) or “Fixed” at some user selected value.
The “Automatic” zoom is mentioned to be calculated currently with distance of next turn instruction in real time. In the future we could introduce the speed factor too.
BTW there is also an “Auto center” active in navigation / follow modes. If scroll the map, it will revert back to user location after some seconds.
Perhaps we should rename the “Automatic” to “Dynamic”?
What about only 2 main options 
- auto zoom = off
- auto zoom = on
Then, when auto zoom = on you have two sliders:
min zoom level
max zoom level
Setting both to the same value (min = max) would be equivalent to the old fixed zoom level.
I think this would even simplify the UI from a user perspective.
Manfred
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I would absolutely prefer such options. It’s more important to have flexible configuration options than lean menus. Normally you will choose your optimal and individual configuration for your device and personal needs only once.
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That is exactly what I do believe.
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My irritation mentioned above perhaps comes from the double meaning of “auto / -matic” in Kurviger, what results logically in these two options “automatic auto zoom” and “non automatic auto zoom”, what is indeed logical (for us people more familiar with algothmic thinking), but does not SOUND intuitively meaningful.
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So perhaps it is indeed a good idea to think about these both designations once again to distinguish between
(a) "going back to the center of the navigation screen automatically"
and
(b) “choosing a matching scale of zooming automatically”.
Mod-Mode:
Just did - have a look above - hope it will not cause irritations!
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Hi there,
I have one big issue with the automatic zoom level which I try to explain.
When I arrive on roundabout, the zoom level increase automatically at a level which is almost fine for me. So perfect.
As soon as I enter the roundabout, the zoom level decrease automatically to show the sort of general itinerary and then I’m screwed: shall I take the first or second exit? It is just really too small on the screen to see which one I shall take, especially when then 2 exits are quite near from each other.
Same thing happens as well on road junction where there road split itself like a fork: one on the right, one straight ahead, one slightly on the left.
As soon as I’m on the juction, the zoom decrease and it’s then not clear at all if I have to take the one straight ahead or the one slightly on the left.
And these 2 kind of situations happened way too often on my last trip.
So I would suggest that the zoom decrease only happens once one have actually moved out of the juction or the roundabout instead of just once arrived at the junction or roundabout.
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Inspecting the route geometry with GPS jumping around is usually not very accurate.
An alternate way is auto zoom based on speed: slower > zoom in, faster > zoom out.
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No need to be accurate here.
It would be sufficient if distance to junction >50m before zooming out.
Speed as an additional criteria to distance may work.
Zoom level based only on speed is IMO not a wise idea.
I can easily imagine junctions which can (safely) be passed with 80Km/h or more.
(e.g. turn slightly right)
Manfred
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I also would absolutely prefer if the zoom level would be adjusted back to a zoomed out view a little bit later (50m or so should be enough). Sometimes the view zooms out to fast be able to identifiy your current position on the street (which means: at a junction or in a circle). No rocket science needed here (like zooming out depending on the route geometry), just leave the zoomed in view a little bit longer.
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My preference would be the opposite: driving slower → zoom out for better orientation where to go… driving faster → zoom in for better view the curvature of the next 3 curves. Would be nice to make this optional by a preference setting, so that everyone finds its best preference.
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During my last tour using the Kurviger app this behaviour was again confirmed to be inconvenient: I was in a larger circle when the view suddently zoomed out. No chance to see what’s the correct exit (and a shame if you don’t remember what the instruction said which number of exit you should take).
The view should definitely be zoomed out later (and maybe not instantly but in a few steps).
That and many other features come with next version, just around the corner. 
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Sounds good!! 