Make Kurviger App the better Android Auto Navi

Android Auto is now coming to motorbikes, i have the Africa Twin which will have it soon (just announced). We really really need Kurviger on android auto, the sooner the better - what are the chances?

According to the current information, the smartphone must be connected via USB cable (see also FAQ) - do you really want that? Btw: I’m driving a Africa Twin (but the CRF 1000 L) as well.

Yes, it is ok.
My phone is in my tank bag with a short cable to the USB which is near the right handle, i do that now.
I think you can also get USB wireless adapters that may do this wirelessly although i am not sure. https://www.lifewire.com/android-auto-wireless-4176354

So overall it would be a good thing to have Kurviger on Android Auto

Google just a few days ago opened Google Play Store for publishing new Android Auto apps to testing.

That requires a major rewrite of any mobile app, so it is a lot of work.

For the future, see my already existing answer:

We really need to get Kurviger onto Android Auto, others are now leading the way and sad to say I am now using a competitor.
I use it to import gpx files to follow a route that has been pre planned.

When will we get it!!

Many users give 1 star reviews to Kurviger due to subscriptions.
But they request features such as Cloud / Traffic / Auto / Wear.


Requires writing a new app → significant resources and time.

Not in the foreseeable future, sorry.

Edited my review in the store to boost the algorithm a bit. Hope our favorite developer knows we still :heart: him, keep going @devemux86, just one feature after the other, in the priority you see fit, you can do it :fist:

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Contrary to one of my earlier posts, I am now no longer in favour of scarce developer resources being used to adapt to Android Auto.
Why?
I have been able to try Android Auto with some “competitor products” (Waze, TomTom, Sygic) and was overall very disappointed. Starting with the waste of space due to the huge box on the left with the instructions, which you can’t configure away, to the generally limited configurability and the additional prices.
Most people won’t need it on a motorbike (yet), because the number of two-wheel SUV that integrate AA is still small.
I would have liked to have it in a convertible, because I wouldn’t have a second device on the dashboard. But the above-mentioned disadvantages outweigh the benefits for me.

One more comment on the 1-star ratings in the Android shop.
Basically, people, “spoiled” by supposedly free software like Google or open source, expect software to cost nothing or almost nothing. Many do not realise that they then pay for the use of their personal data. Small or very small developers are naturally unable to do this.


Entgegen einem meiner früheren Posting, bin ich mittlerweile nicht mehr dafür, dass die knappen Entwickler-Ressourcen für die Anpassung an Android Auto verwendet werden.
Warum?
Ich habe Android Auto mit einigen “Mitbewerber-Produkten” ausprobieren dürfen (Waze, TomTom, Sygic) und war insgesamt sehr enttäuscht. Angefangen bei der Platzverschwendung durch den riesigen Kastens links mit den Anweisungen, den man nicht weg konfigurieren, über die generell eingeschränkte Konfigurierbarkeit kann bis hin zu den aufgerufenen Aufpreisen.
Auf dem Motorrad werden es die Meisten sowieso (noch) nicht brauchen, denn noch ist die Zahl der Zweirad-SUV, die AA integrieren klein.
Im Cabrio hätte ich gerne gehabt, weil ich so kein zweites Gerät am Dashboard hätte. Die o.g. Nachteile überwiegen aber für mich.

Noch eine Anmerkung zu den 1 Stern-Bewertungen im Android-Shop.
Grundsätzlich erwarten die Leute, “versaut” durch vermeintlich kostenlose SW wie Google oder open source, dass Software nichts oder fast nichts kostet. Dass sie dann über die Nutzung ihrer persönlichen Daten doch zahlen, realisieren viele nicht. Kleine oder kleinste Entwickler können das naturgemäß nicht.

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what’s stopping you from changing the rating again based on this knowledge?

I can understand that and it is just stupid and brazen of users to deliver such a rating.

You have to think about it: on every trip you spend much more on fuel, food and drink than the really cheap subscription of 10€ per year or 20€ if you take the web and app development together.

The flexibility of Calimoto cannot come close to that of Kurviger, even though there are more developers at work.

But why is the review of beta users not published, but only visible to the developer? I would guess that most of the users active here in the forum give it 5 stars.

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I think there is a misunderstanding here.
What I wrote is an attempt to explain why some people rule the way they do here. I neither share nor support this attitude. On the contrary, I find it disgusting.
But in a time when anyone can write any nonsense on the net, unfortunately you have to live with such a reaction.
I suspect that among these people are few to none who know kurviger.de for a long time or deal with it intensively.

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Yes, was a misunderstanding then.

I took a look at the preview images for Kurviger 2. They are still in the old style, quite old-fashioned. Maybe you could update them and emphasise the flexibility and adaptability to personal needs, for example:

  • there is a simulation mode
  • the colours for routes, symbols and sections are freely definable
  • maps and route width can be zoomed and automatically adjusted depending on speed or distance
  • the font and symbol sizes are adjustable
  • buttons can be hidden or displayed according to the individual taste
  • … all the advantages that you look for in vain at Calimoto or others

example:

and take the other example: Everyone spends more money on fuel, food and drink on a motorbike day trip, so it seems downright ridiculous to denounce yourself over €10 a year for the app subscription or €20 for both web and app.

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Standard Google play policy, to prevent beta users from dragging your app down cause it crashes and they forget they are on beta… Which… Happens a lot :smiley:

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Absolutely right.

According to Google:

Gather private feedback during open or closed tests and reply to testers directly in Play Console. Feedback during open or closed testing is only visible to you and will not affect your public rating.

They are old with texts in 2 languages, so not really maintainable.
When there is free time I will change them to simple screenshots.

Ich finde Kurviger derzeit perfekt für das Motorrad. Die Anzeige ist absolut ausreichend und ich kann fast alles ausblenden.

Zukünftig sehe ich auch AA als notwendige Erweiterung. Sollte BMW dieses bei den zukünftigen Displays ,wie bei der RT, einführen, wird der Markt danach verlangen. Allerdings gibt es noch keine Aussagen welchen Weg BMW gehen wird.

Kurviger ist für mich absolut kein Alltagsprodukt, um im Auto damit zu navigieren. Ich brauche die besten Verkehrsdaten und Warnungen vor Gefahren. Hier nutze ich TomTom Go und bin damit sehr zufrieden. Leider sind die Templates die Google für AA vorgibt sehr beschränkt und scheinen gerade die Navigationshersteller vor Probleme zu stellen. Bei TomTom Go ist es derzeit z.B. nicht möglich, die rechte Leiste anzeigen zu lassen, da es von Google nicht vorgesehen ist, dort etwas anzeigen zu lassen.

Ich denke es gibt genug Verbesserungen die notwendiger sind, als AA.

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OsmAnd: “minimum app version will be Android 7.0 (required for Android Auto)”


Huh? I implemented Android Auto in my app at work and it was no problem to make a distinction for older devices :thinking:

I totally agree API 21 (android 5) ist the best choice for now, most APIs work nicely and there’s not too much hassle in the code

It probably depends on whether each app has the resources to support old Androids.
(or implement Android Auto)

Yeah totally! All I am saying is that if you really want something, it’s possible. We are a 20 person company, and for apps only one android developer (me), and one QA. If you really want a feature for your users, you can do it :slight_smile: That’s why priorities are so important, everybody has to be honest about prios

Btw emux you know that my inbox is always open for you when you have a piece of code you need to bounce off on somebody :heart:

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