Thanks for the valid concerns about Kurviger future!
I moved the post in the related existing discussion, where we have already expressed our thoughts and explained the ongoing costs for development, servers, etc.
That is 9.99 € one time purchase.
The day will come! don’t call for it!!!
They will be sold or acquired by a profit organization (or the older market dominants) and the good old days will be over.
RGDS
hk
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Hallo zusammen,
eine interessante Diskussion. Als erstes denke ich mal, dass die Entwickler wissen was sie tun und was sie brauchen. Das Ihre Kunden bereit sind etwas mehr zu geben (zu zahlen) sehen sie ja an diesem Beitrag. Das sie sehr gute Arbeit leisten, sehen sie an der starken Beteiligung hier im Forum. Der Service hier ist einfach top. 
Mein schlimmste Szenario wäre, wenn die App, wegen ein paar Euros zusammenbrechen würde.
Hier habe ich einfach das Gefühl einer Hinterhof-Werkstatt. Wo die Mechaniker (Entwickler) mit viel Enthusiasmus ihrer Arbeit nachgehen und wo ich genau weiß, wenn ich ein Problem habe, wird mir geholfen, und dabei nicht nur an die Rechnung gedacht. Und so lange wie ich dieses Gefühl habe, gebe ich auch gern mal ein paar Euros mehr aus. Da diese Werkstätten selten und kostbar geworden sind.
Eine Frage habe ich da aber auch noch.
Ich dachte immer die App und die Web-Seite ist eine “Werkstatt”. Dem ist wohl nicht so?
Ich hoffe ihr könnt mit meinem Vergleich etwas anfangen. Macht es doch so wir bei New Features und schaut, was am Ende dabei rauskommt.
Viele Grüße
Basti
PS: Macht einfach weiter so 
und wenn ihr Unterstützung braucht gebt mir Bescheid! Was ich kann gebe ich gern 
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So sehe ich das auch!
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I see that there’s lot of interest, hence let me expand my previous sparse statement:
Of course 10€ cannot sustain the development and provisioning! So if you guys need money, put it on the table. May be you could create a few alternative funding models and let the community decide, what the majority likes best. But, whatever you do, PLEASE
S A V E U S F R O M A D V E R T I S I N G S P A M !!
My other request would be, that we, who have subscribed to the current version would be allowed retaining it, as is. May be you could create a new Kurviger 2.0, where all the future upgrades go, and leave the current version in peace (just stopping new subscriptions, but keeping it there for download as free oder those who have a prof key). Everybody could then decide, staying with the current version, or move on to the new subscription, if the new baby becomes tempting.
Rgds
hk
Subscriptions seem to be the new model of Locus app.
You can read more details in their announcement:
Any app’s future cannot be based on one-time purchase & donations.
Otherwise cannot expect new features development or maintenance.
(please see also all above discussions)
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That’s true and accepted.
But I’d like to donate today, even if you change your business model next week. And I think there are some more in this community who think similarly. Just take it as a tip for exceptional services.
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There are 2 different platforms, developed separately by 2 different people.
App only uses server routing, anything else needs another business model.
Such features are possible only after switch the app to a subscription model.
Warum nicht für die Website und App separat bezahlen?
Dann wären folgende Zahlungsarten möglich:
a) nur website - jemand zahlt für die Planung mit der website und überlässt das Routing einem Navigationssystem
b) nur app - Planung mit der app und Routing mit der app oder einem Navigationssystem
c) beides (“full service”) - Planung mit der website und Routing über die app
Ich persönlich nähme c) - obwohl ich auch kein Freund von Abonnements bin, mache ich hier eine Ausnahme.
Why not pay separately for the website and app?
Then the following payment methods would be possible:
a) website only - someone pays for planning with the website and leaves the routing to a navigation system
b) app only - planning with the app and routing with the app or a navigation system
c) both (“full service”) - planning with the website and routing via the app
I personally take c) - although I am not a friend of subscriptions either, I make an exception here.
They can only be separate, as they are 2 different platforms with separate facilities.
A sustainable future of the app can only be possible like it is done by all other apps:
Kurviger 1 Free + Pro apps are being replaced by one unified Kurviger 2 app.
Kurviger 2 app is free with Pro features as in-app subscription (with free trial).
Kurviger 1 Pro app remains available and will be maintained for current owners.
They can continue to enjoy it, but new features apply to Kurviger 2 subscription.
You can transfer your routes, bookmarks, recorded tracks, maps, preferences
to Kurviger 2 app.
This is the only way to keep Kurviger app development alive in the future.
Current model has no more life, it will cause Kurviger app to stop to exist.
Available in Kurviger 2.0.9 (Beta).
OK. Finally.
I have Kurviger 1 Pro. What do I need to run Kurviger 2?
Is there some in-app activation of the subscription?
Thank you for your continuing support and development
of this fine app. Please keep on.
Havn’t seen a price tag, yet. So what does it cost???
As far as I can see Kurviger 2 is in beta phase yet, →
- Take part in beta program
Kurviger Beta program - Install Kurviger 2.0.7
Kurviger 2.0.11 (Beta) - To get all features do a subscription inside Kurviger App
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The subscriptions are available in free Kurviger app.
Kurviger 2 is still in Beta program, see the instructions for participation.
The subscription prices are the same as the website (in Germany).
(2.49 € / month or 9.99 € / year)
Apps set a price without tax and Google Play calculates the final price with tax per country.
Thanks to these two points, I will keep using the Kurviger app. First, Kurviger 1 Pro and later on Kurviger 2 with significant more features to a fair price of ~10 €/year.
However, is a subscription for Kurviger 2 (app) the same as a Kurviger Tourer (website)? If not, I can use multiple route profiles for segments at the one but not the other, right?
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With this link currently you reach Google Play with the App Kurviger (Free) 1.14.17, released on Friday 09.April 2021. In this version is missing the Abo selection (Menu-Button > Abo).
What I am doing wrong?