Bei der Vergabe von Wegpunkten durch kurviger.de ist mir folgendes aufgefallen:
Nach dem Import eines Tracks (Nockalmrunde.gpx (121.9 KB) ) zur Erstellung einer Route mit 10 Wegpunkten erhalte ich: Kurviger - 8 Via-Points zwischen Start und Ziel
diese können natürlich durch Klicks in der Wegpunktliste in shaping points umgewandelt werden
aber wenn die Route nun exportiert wird mit “vielen Stützpunkten” bekomme ich weitere 10 Via-Points
keiner dieser Via-Points wurde bewusst gesetzt, also sind es im Prinzip Shaping-Points
Wäre es nicht wünschenswert, wenn alle automatisch gesetzten Wegpunkte als Shaping-Points definiert werden?
Via-Points (mit Ansage) sollten ausgewählten POIs, Kaffeepausen, etc. vorbehalten sein und vom Tour-Ersteller explizit gesetzt werden.
I noticed the following when assigning waypoints through kurviger.de:
After importing a track (Nockalmrunde.gpx (121.9 KB) ) to create a route with 10 waypoints I get: Kurviger - 8 via points between start and destination
these can of course be converted to shaping points by clicking in the waypoint list
but if the route is now exported with “a lot additional waypoints” I get another 10 via points
none of these via points were set intentional, so they are basically shaping points
Wouldn’t it be desirable if all automatically set waypoints are defined as shaping points?
Via Points (with announcement) should be reserved for selected POIs, coffee breaks, etc. and should be set explicitly by the tour creator.
I fully agree to the idea of @zaphod_42.
As far as I understand this concerns “Garmin ShapingPoint GPX” format - correct?
Just a hint: In former Kurviger export in “Garmin ShapingPoint GPX” format only start and destination were ViaPoints. If using further ViaPoints, according to manual at least on some devices the number of consecutive ShapingPoints is limited (e.g. BMW Navigator 5: 50, Navigator 6: 125). This might lead to conflicts when exporting long routes, especially on devices with a small number of allowed ShapingPoints in a row .
I do not know details about Zumo 590/595/3xxx or the newer Zumo XT.
On my BMW N5 sometimes route import failed due to too many ShapingPoints in a row, but it did not give clear feedback about the reason (or even no feedback about the reason) .
Now and then import with more than 50 ShapingPoints in a row is possible - I still do not fully understand that
I have to admit that I have no simple idea to solve that problem - a solution would be a setting “maximum number of ShapingPoints in a row” for Kurviger export, but this makes the user interface more complex and also will increase implementation effort
You are right - I just checked on Website, there are different ‘symbol’ tags (‘Flag, Blue’ / ‘Waypoint’ ) and different ‘type’ tags (‘via’, ‘shaping’ ) for via points and shaping points.
But as far as I know this will have no impact on import on Garmin devices, because they do not use those differences do distinguish between ViaPoints and ShapingPoints, they import all points as ViaPoints.
So the problem “max. number of consecutive ShapingPoints” will not occur.
Sorry - it’s me again …
Thanks for the solution regarding the additional waypoints while exporting a gpx file.
But: woundn’t it be great to have all generated waypoints while importing a gpx file set as shaping points either? None of these generated waypoints are set intentionally, therefore should be shaping points. You may take the example from start of this thread.
Thanks in advance, Robin.
My question is: Is that rule valid also outside GPX import? E.g. will adding/changing/removing a waypoint name switch ViaPoint / ShapingPoint automatically? (I would not like that, but I think during GPX import it is a good idea to use it for initial value).
I just reread my post from yesterday I think I posted this part about names in the wrong thread. This essentially is only relevant when importing GPX files.
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